The nature of this double reed will make it go out of tune real easy, as you've noticed. How to tell if your oboe reed is broken or needs replacing. However, adjusting your oboe reeds to resolve this is not too complex. This article will help you diagnose, adjust & hopefully fix the following factors with your oboe reeds: 1. The reed vibrates hundreds of times a second and a week grain in the cane can be convinced to come apart by these undulating waves through the material. Thank you in advance! Or at least it should be. Home › Forums › Reeds › The Oboe Reed Room › Top of oboe reed will not close This topic has 10 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 9 years, 4 months ago by Andrew R. Nogal. Oboe reeds are expensive and it can be painful to have to get a new reed so often. If still too hard, scrape a very little amount of reed. I soak my cane for about 25 minutes before I tie it. Resistance (too hard or soft) 2. The oboe is officially one of the most difficult instruments to play. Additionally bacterial growth inside the reed can effectively make the opening smaller as the biofilms coat the inside cavity of the reed. Sides of the reed not closed from born again oboe The sides should press tightly together along the entire length of the reed. The tip of the reed may become frayed from trauma of tonguing and knicks from the reed case or hands. By the way, do you let your blanks dry closed, or do you clip them open before letting them rest? We’ve noticed the quality of pretty much all the European cane (Rigotti, Loree, Pisoni, Alliaud, Glotin) all be pretty bad in the last year. In one session, shape the cane, tie it, and scrape it until you have clipped the tip open. If anyone has been through anything like this with oboe reeds, your input would be greatly appreciated! Home › Forums › Reeds › The Oboe Reed Room › Top of oboe reed will not close This topic has 10 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 9 years, 4 months ago by Andrew R. Nogal. As the tongue attacks the reed and/or it endures other microtraumas from handling or accidental knicks or bumps, the tip of the reed may take on a ragged or frayed appearance. From the oboe reed critiques that I offer to all of the reed shipments from our reedmakers. The micro trauma of controlling the reed with the embouchure(mouth) will accelerate the process. Tying on too long will cause the reed to leak; too short and the sides crush together causing the tip to spread apart. If it is too large, that can be dealt with easily, and should be okay to purchase. Soak the reed for 1-3 minutes or until the reed is the correct strength – a shorter amount of time if the reed is newer, and longer if the reed is older or more closed. A lot of oboe reeds cross my desk every month. Clip the tip of the reed (using a knife or razor blade), a little at a time till the crow is a “C” pitch. The SOAKED oboe reed may benefit from being squeezed shut for 30-45 seconds for the first few playing sessions. Copyright © 1995 - 2020 International Double Reed Society. Tying the reed on longer has the opposite effect. Soak new reeds in warm water for one minute. Brand new reeds may tend to seem too open at first, and likewise, older reeds might be the ones that collapse on you. I know that many, many reeds pass through the shop, so I trust your colleague’s generalization. The approximative dimensions for this product are 4.2 x 0.6 x 4 inches. Too closed… However, inexperienced reed makers should not try this. All of my reeds end up appallingly open at the tip. How to buy an Oboe: Background and 4-Step Guide, What band directors wish they knew about teaching oboe, Oboe and Double Reed Repair People Across America, Why Does the Oboe Tune the Orchestra? Overall, this is a secure Oboe Reed case, which you can close with sturdy clamshell protection. Singin’ Dog is a well-known maker of oboe reeds, and this particular reed is entirely handmade. I do not think it is the staples I have been using because after trying some of my teachers’ staples that had previously worked for her, my reeds still had the same problems. Keeping your reeds in a reed case and not in the plastic tube or coffin it came it will help as well. 4. If the reed is too closed, you will not get much life out of the reed, though will likely open up when soaked. I used the same cane that I have been using (Brannen X, Gilbert gouge) and tried tying to between 74 and 74.5 mm (I had been tying to 73 mm previously). All Rights Reserved. I tend to scrape the corners of the tip before setting the blank aside. Most of the time, the fold seems to be pretty clean, no shreds. When the cane seems soft, I also observe that the size of the opening changes dramatically after the dry reed has been soaked. Quality handmade oboe & English horn reeds, tube cane, gouged & shaped cane, oboe music, accessories and more. However the environment of the reed can allow some germs to proliferate beyond the point of control. An “easy” reed (or beginning/student/soft reed) is almost always scraped too thin, making the vibrations easier to achieve without much air support. This problem can sometimes be cured by soaking the reed in hot water or by squishing closed the back of a soaked reed. If it’s too big, gently close the blades between your fingers. For tips on making the reeds last longer and getting the most out of your reed check out this article I wrote by clicking here. I will say this another way: the sides of the tip do not touch when looking at the reed from the top-down. I have been using the Gilbert gouge and the Lucarelli and Brannen-x shapes. White or black growths in the reed mean it’s time to order replacements. The tip of the reed is the thinnest part of the reed. 3. 1. The opening of the reed is stabilized by two main opposing forces. To open the reed squeeze the wire, using your fingers, gently from the sides. 1. The opening may be too closed, in which case there are no good adjustments that would help. IF THE REED TOO FREE: Try clipping the tip of the reed and readjust. Martin. Behold, my best reed in a long time was born, and I sincerely hope that the problem has been solved. If the opening is too small the reed may not accept the air stream and the low notes will feel labored and unstable. Using rubbing alcohol or hydrogen peroxide may keep them at bay temporarily but this is not a long term solution. Binding. C. Corners of the mouth are turned up (in a smile) 1. This leads to sharpness and makes the reed harder to blow through. A crack is certainly the death of a reed. In reality, through normal use in practice and band class, an oboe reed should only last a couple of weeks. Gradually increase the air pressure until the reed speaks by itself. It took me about five attempts to make one successful blank. Also agree with Trent’s statement that 10.5 to 11.0 in diameter could help. Each one is thoughtfully put together to help provide you with the best tone possible, and the only use the highest quality Arundo donax cane available to help ensure the best handmade oboe reed. What should I do if the reed is too easy? But too often, reeds are too thick, too long, too open, too closed, too sharp -- you name a problem, and it's a possibility for an oboe reed. If the reed is too hard too open too closed 1. Squeeze gently on the sides. The instant the reeds close, a sound almost exactly like hands clapping is produced and transmitted to the instrument, where the sound waves reverberate back from the tone holes and the opposite end of the oboe, opening the reeds up again and allowing breath to reenter. MEASURING. However, after letting my reeds sit for a few hours, they all seem to go back to that same archetype: horrifyingly open and low-crowing. My teacher was simultaneously tying a reed using the same music stand. I KNOW how to break in a reed, except this one seems waaaayy too open. Turn corners of mouth down . 2. 1. The age of the reed required to grow such creatures is a bit longer than recommended simply because of the slippage and collapse described above. Take a couple scrapes out of each side of the heart and tip. Soaking the reed for more than a few minutes can cause the cane to expand too much leaving the reed flat, stoggy, and resistant. Never work on a dry reed – it will likely crack. After you have selected the cane for straightness and chopped it to length, lay the piece bark-side down on a flat surface. I always check to make sure my reed's hole is a football shape and it's not too open or too closed, and even though I know it's at a good shape, the tone I … If a reed is too open it will be difficult to control and may fatigue the mouth too much to be playable, but if the opening is too small the reed will be sharp and inflexible. D. Reed Problem: 1. If you need to order reeds, click here to go to the shop where I sell handmade reeds. Sometimes they are so open that they will not even crow, or they just sound like a goose (only one pitch) when I attempt to crow them. These simple but crucial tests will help you decide if your reed is broken or needs replacing especially if your just starting out on the oboe. Tone (does it make a nice sound) 5. A thin and sloped tip allow the reed to give a warm sound with easy response. However, since I changed too many variables at once, I wasn’t sure how I made the blank. If it’s still too open, gently squeeze the sides of the string with pliers. I have been making reeds for about 2 years. a. Leaking (air escaping) D. Reed Problem: 1. If tip is too closed, reed will play sharp and it will be impossible to blow into with adequate breath support. It is very telling who is not practicing at home based on how long their reed is still able to trudge along. Chips that occur at the edges of the tip are not as critical as chips at or near the middle from left to right. How to Balance an Oboe Reed. We also offer private lessons in the Chicago area. These are just a few of the variables you might consider: Place the oboe reed in warm water for 5-7 minutes, remove from water, blow out excess moisture and play; Too open= not likely but you can squeeze the reed shut if needed. The reed is considered the part of oboe that makes the instrument so difficult because the individual nature of each reed means that it is hard to achieve a consistent sound. Too closed… Any cracks in the reed will render it flat and useless. 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